Can you suggest the WARP-13 programmer?

[Bill Turnip]

Hello all -

I have exclusively been using the 16F877 (and 16F873) PICs with MPLAB and the PCM compiler, and I program these PICs using the ICD. By disconnecting the 4 or 5 connections to the ICD hardware and adding a pullup, I then use these parts in stand-alone applications. I would now like to work with other PICs, and will need a programmer. Is the WARP-13 a good one to use? The price seems reasonable, it can handle the parts I am planning to use, and it can be integrated into MPLAB. Am I missing anything?
Thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions.

Bill
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[Kenny]

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:= I have exclusively been using the 16F877 (and 16F873) PICs with MPLAB and the PCM compiler, and I program these PICs using the ICD. By disconnecting the 4 or 5 connections to the ICD hardware and adding a pullup, I then use these parts in stand-alone applications. I would now like to work with other PICs, and will need a programmer. Is the WARP-13 a good one to use? The price seems reasonable, it can handle the parts I am planning to use, and it can be integrated into MPLAB. Am I missing anything?
:= Thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions.
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:=Bill

Yes, the Warp13a is excellent. Jim Robertson allows you to do your own firmware upgrades too so it's easy to keep up to date.
I use the in-circuit programming feature for code development together with PCW. This feature seems to be provided for final programming of the PIC on the target board rather than for code development.
I use two diodes, one in series with the programming voltage (needed because this line would leave the PIC reset after programming otherwise) and the other in series with a 10k pullup on the programming pin to prevent the programming voltage appearing on the +5V rail when power is inadvertently left off, the two diode cathodes joined at the pin.
Seems to work better with 10k pulldowns on RB6 (clock) and RB7 data).
Also I power the target circuit independently rather than take +5V from the Warp.

Perhaps I'm missing something - is it better to use ICD or bootloader together with MPLAB istead for code development?

Regards
Kenny
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[john cutler]

YES!! It works great for me, and Jim is an outstanding guy. He has helped me in the past wikth early adoption on new PIC chips, before he was doing a new firmware release. Also, Peter Anderson in Maryland is his main US rep, and he carries parts for upgrades. I don't know of a better programmer - especially for the $$.

JC
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[Dave Yeatman]

Yes!! I upgraded mine a while back to add the 18 series capability and the new high speed mod and it works great for both...zero problems.

Dave


:=Hello all -
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:= I have exclusively been using the 16F877 (and 16F873) PICs with MPLAB and the PCM compiler, and I program these PICs using the ICD. By disconnecting the 4 or 5 connections to the ICD hardware and adding a pullup, I then use these parts in stand-alone applications. I would now like to work with other PICs, and will need a programmer. Is the WARP-13 a good one to use? The price seems reasonable, it can handle the parts I am planning to use, and it can be integrated into MPLAB. Am I missing anything?
:= Thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions.
:=
:=Bill
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[Pete Smith]

:=Hello all -
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:= I have exclusively been using the 16F877 (and 16F873) PICs with MPLAB and the PCM compiler, and I program these PICs using the ICD. By disconnecting the 4 or 5 connections to the ICD hardware and adding a pullup, I then use these parts in stand-alone applications. I would now like to work with other PICs, and will need a programmer. Is the WARP-13 a good one to use? The price seems reasonable, it can handle the parts I am planning to use, and it can be integrated into MPLAB. Am I missing anything?

Not missing anything at all!

FWIW, if you don't use MPLAB to actually develop the code, you now don't need MPLAB at all.

My situation is that I use Ultraedit to compiler - much nicer than MPLAB. I've linked Ultraedit into the programmer controller, so I compile with a keystroke and program with one too.

It's even got those 5 wires you need (Vdd, Vss, MCLR, B6 and B7) on the board on a molex connector, which really helped me (until someone told me that Surface Mount was the work of the Devil, totally unsuitable for development work - despite the fact that hadn't stopped me for 3 years before - and we've now got to do everything through hole with no ICSP facility), because I could just plug in the lead at both ends, and go.

Definitely worth it IMO.

I was "forced" into using it when we couldn't get 16LF876's, but only the 876A part, which at the time, Picstart Plus didn't support.

Pete.
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[Bill Turnip]

Thanks for the input everyone!!!

Bill
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