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		| joseph20480 
 
 
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				| Pic24fj16ga004 PLL and consumption |  
				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:01 am |   |  
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				| dear every one, 
 I have some difficulty with my pic and the pll.
 At 8Mhz (no pll) > Consumption OK
 At 32Mhz, my consumption is more 30mA !!!
 
 
 My pic : pic24fj64ga004
 Frequency Clock : 32Mhz with PLL.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | #fuses FRC_PLL,NOWDT,NOPROTECT,NODEBUG,NOJTAG
 #use delay(clock=32M)
 
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 please tell me if you see something wrong, i'm little confuse ...
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		| newguy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:46 am |   |  
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				| You have to ensure that all unused peripherals are turned off. Your current consumption will fall as you find and kill these overlooked current draws. |  |  
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		| Ttelmah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:21 am |   |  
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				| Agreed, you are probably making it worse with all the stuff floating, But that is a price you pay for speed. The data sheet tells you that the
 core current of the chip can be up to about 20mA at 32MHz, only about
 a quarter of that at 8MHz. TANSTAAFL in performance terms...
   Turning off the unused stuff and making sure the pins are not floating, should
 save perhaps 30%, but it is going to draw more as you go faster.
 
 You are making the consumption slightly worse with your clock setup. Change
 to:
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | #include <24FJ16GA004.h>
 
 #fuses NOWDT,NOPROTECT,NODEBUG,NOJTAG
 #use delay(INTERNAL=32M)
 
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 By default your current setup will be enabling the oscillator output, which
 means a pin running fast, and drawing quite a noticeable extra current.
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		| temtronic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:29 am |   |  
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				| One of those 'speed kills' things. 
 Static CMOS consumes very,very little power,with proper pullups.
 
 Active CMOS consumes power ,based upon speed and/or 'transactions' (0/1/0/1/...).
 
 Going from 8MHz to 32MHz is X4, so I'd expect X4+- increase in current. it's a simple 'math' thing.
 
 Now you're also using the PLL, so additional power is needed to run  that.
 
 It's just the 'nature of the beast'....
 
 Since you're concerned about power, I assume you're battery powered ?
 Now there are 'tricks', some already mentioned. Another is 'waking up, run fast, then sleep'. How fast depends on what needs to be done. Or you can vary the speed.
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		| joseph20480 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:24 am |   |  
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				|  	  | temtronic wrote: |  	  | One of those 'speed kills' things. 
 Static CMOS consumes very,very little power,with proper pullups.
 
 Active CMOS consumes power ,based upon speed and/or 'transactions' (0/1/0/1/...).
 
 Going from 8MHz to 32MHz is X4, so I'd expect X4+- increase in current. it's a simple 'math' thing.
 
 Now you're also using the PLL, so additional power is needed to run  that.
 
 It's just the 'nature of the beast'....
 
 Since you're concerned about power, I assume you're battery powered ?
 Now there are 'tricks', some already mentioned. Another is 'waking up, run fast, then sleep'. How fast depends on what needs to be done. Or you can vary the speed.
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 Thanks for all reply !
 So nothings to do... bad luck... :-)
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		| Ttelmah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:46 am |   |  
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				| Yes, and no, you should be able to reduce it quite a bit by making sure you have no pins floating, and turning off the peripherals you don't want. The
 data sheet figure at 32MHz is about 20mA.
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