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Code Question and Recommendation on Good C Book
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:40 pm     Reply with quote

I have a question as to what the & in the int8 declarations in the function below does.

Also I am new to C programming (not a student as someone thought) just an old analog engineer trying to keep my grey matter from hardening.

Can anyone recommend a good book on C programming as it relates to the CCS compiler and microchip? I bought the "PICmicro MCU C" by Nigel Gardner but I need something with a little more meat to it.

Thanks for everyones support.

Code:
void GetDigits(int16 Val, int8 &thous, int8 &huns, int8 &tens, int8 &units)
{
  tens = 0;
  huns = 0;
  thous = 0;
 
  while (Val >= 1000)
  {
    Val -= 1000;
    thous++;
  }
 
  while (Val >= 100)
  {
    Val -= 100;
    huns++;
  }
 
  while (Val >= 10)
  {
    Val -= 10;
    tens++;
  }

  units = Val;
}

//===============================
void main ()
{
  int16 adcvalue;
  int8 thous,huns,tens,units;

  adcvalue = 1015;

  GetDigits(adcValue, thous, huns, tens, units);
 
  while (1);
}
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:00 pm     Reply with quote

C language in general:

The C Programming Lanugage, 2nd Ed. by Kernighan and Ritchie.

And I'd switch your function to use
Code:
int8 *thou
etc instead of
Code:
int8 &thou
then access them inside the function as .
Code:
*thou = 0;
and when calling
Code:
GetDigits(adcValue, &thous, &huns, &tens, &units);


& and * are sort of equivalent but not exactly. & generally reads as "address of" and * as "pointer to". Becareful too with operator precidence when using pointers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:02 pm     Reply with quote

a quick Google gives this:

In both C and C++, the ampersand is also used at the start of a variable name to reference to the memory address of that variable in order to change the variable's value. This means they are passing the address of the variable.

GOOGLE is your friend!

K&R C is a great book that most of us have. You can get it from Amazon for almost nothing.

P.S. Sorry Rob, you just beat me to it.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:20 pm     Reply with quote

The method of passing the parameters with the '&' sign is named 'call by reference'. It is method for passing parameters of which you want to change and return the contents to the caller. As already indicated by the other posters it is similar to passing pointer parameters but the resulting code is easier to read because you don't have to ' dereference' the pointers.

rwyoung wrote:
And I'd switch your function to use
Code:
int8 *thou
etc instead of
Code:
int8 &thou
Rob, could you explain why you think the function call should be changed? Why do you think the pointer parameters are better in this situation? To my knowledge both methods are equally efficient and is it just a matter of taste which technique to use.

Early versions of C didn't support the 'call by reference' parameters while modern languages like Java don't allow the unrestricted pointer parameters anymore because of safety reasons.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:27 am     Reply with quote

You have to be a bit careful with 'call by reference'. It is an extension to basic C, and in CCS, only implemented in a _very_ limited way. It's advantage, is that as shown, with a single function used (or with multiple functions, if these are coded as 'inline'), it will result in the subroutine directly accessing the variables 'passed', without using address calculations at all, and will result in smaller/faster code. Basically the compiler 'hard codes' the referenced address, into the subroutine. However if multiple calls to the routine are made, and these are seperate, then using the 'traditional' pointer form is safer in CCS.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:41 am     Reply with quote

RJ gave a better (and shorter) answer than I could.

I have had much less trouble with "odd" code when using int *num_monkeys than int &num_monkeys with the CCS compiler(s).

This does bring up two good points for beginners (all of us for that matter), and they are:

Always look at your LST file to see how the compiler did something.

And, be able to at least READ the assembly listings. Better if you can write in assembly too but at least be able to read a section of code and understand what is happening.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:25 am     Reply with quote

"Embedded C Programming and the Microchip PIC" by Barnett, Cox and O'Cull. Pretty good book, and it does deal with the CCS compiler. Even comes with a demo version of the compiler on CD.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:08 am     Reply with quote

Good book is "The Indispensible Guide to 'C'" - written for students and contains many real world embedded C examples and including practical examples of interfacing to hardware. This book is not PIC specific.
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