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Data transfer and protocols

 
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Michael_B
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Data transfer and protocols
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:40 am     Reply with quote

Good day.

Can someone please explain me what to if i want to make this situation to work.

Hardware parts:
Transmiter
Reciever
Radio data transfer
Short range

Programming:
I send text data from transm. to reciever

Which data transfer protocol should i use and how to bundle this with CCS C ?

I know that this is bit "major" question and if you need additional info , please let me know...
jay miller
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:45 am     Reply with quote

None, until you get reliable communications working! Both hardware and software should be tested without any, just simple 8 bit transfers.
Then you can decide , based on level of security, whether you need CRC,XMODEM or 'roll your own'. The later is best as only you should be able to make sense of the data stream.
I did that 30 years ago and noone has ever been able to 'break the lock'.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:54 am     Reply with quote

Maybe try using a Laipac RF-24G Transceivers (http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25745)? From my experience, they are much more reliable than the plain old ASK 434MHz transmitter/receiver pairs.

Check out http://www.istop.com/~micro/electronics/rf.htm for an example of a serial bridge.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:00 am     Reply with quote

Laipac RF-24G
hmmm, nice :-) but ...

I want to get data transmition range between 0 - 5 KM and i dont want to use such high frequency. In our country 5W output is the maximal FREE output which someone can use and this should be free service ( for such range ).

Is there possibility to get tranceiver with cca 500-700 MHZ which can be used with maximal output (5W) to get the 5 KM range ? There are some free frequencys in this range.

Any suggestions ?

Please note, i want to use the lowest frequency as possible ( for such range ).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:51 am     Reply with quote

This will help you to implement and test a wireless link:

http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23953

Sorry, but I have no suggestions regarding which wireless module(s) and what frequency would suit you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:23 am     Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
I want to get data transmition range between 0 - 5 KM and i dont want to use such high frequency. In our country 5W output is the maximal FREE output which someone can use and this should be free service ( for such range ).
Here in the US, most of the radio bands are restricted in one way or another as well as the power of the radio signal being broadcasted. I wouldn't be able to make any suggestions for such a distance; however, amateur radio enthusiasts may have an idea as to what your options for a PIC-based wireless solution would be.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:02 pm     Reply with quote

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however, amateur radio enthusiasts may have an idea as to what your options for a PIC-based wireless solution would be.


Can you point me where to ask or should i wait if someone, at ccs forum, see this post ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:52 pm     Reply with quote

I checked here http://www.electro-tech-online.com/viewforum.php?f=5 and found a link to http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/, which has a number of transmitters, receivers, and transceivers that can have 100mW broadcast power (including http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/products/bim1.htm, which has "Usable range over 10km"). Maybe check them out and look for a distributer in your area to contact.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:15 pm     Reply with quote

HEY MEN, YOUR THE BEST :-).
Im gonna take a look i i get back to you tomorrow !
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