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What is the meaning of development board ??

 
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What is the meaning of development board ??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:05 am     Reply with quote

Hi,

What is the meaning of development board. Is it possible to program the PIC directly from the PC or does the PIC have to be removed and put in a seperate programmer ??

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:18 am     Reply with quote

Many of the "development boards" have the in-circuit serial programming (ICSP) connector on the board and you can program the PIC right on the board. A few even have the entire programmer circuit on the development board.

With the ICSP connector you still have to have an external programmer/interface between the PC and the board like the ICD2 or the ICDU-40 or ICS-40. If you want to buld your own ICSP interface there are a number of them out there to choose from.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:20 am     Reply with quote

I think most people on this forum use a programmer or a boot loader.
So

PC connects to a programmer. ((programmer is ICD2 or CCS_ICD-U40))
programmer connects to target board through the ICD port.

Or

You can re-program a board directly from a PC IF [[IF]] that board has allready been programmed with a boot loader.

To get the ' ' ' FIRST' ' ' boot loader on the PICyou still need a programmer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:47 am     Reply with quote

I figured a "development board" is synonymous with a "demo board". They have enough sample circuits on there to fulfill a "proof of concept".

Before the days of ICSP in PICs, your development/demo board obviously didn't have rj11 jacks to program the chip in-circuit. But it was still a development board.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:06 pm     Reply with quote

The meaning of a developemnt board is to charge you a few hundred bucks.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:37 am     Reply with quote

Hi,

Is it OK to have a development board and not have ICD or ICSP ,and no on board programming ???

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arunb wrote:
Is it OK to have a development board and not have ICD or ICSP ,and no on board programming ???

No! I haven't seen a PIC development board, which wouldn't require some kind of programmer.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:39 am     Reply with quote

Before flash chips and ICSP it was common for development boards to just have the uC in a socket so you could pop it out to erase and program elsewhere.
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kender wrote:
arunb wrote:
Is it OK to have a development board and not have ICD or ICSP ,and no on board programming ???

No! I haven't seen a PIC development board, which wouldn't require some kind of programmer.


Actually there are several develoment boards that have embedded bootloaders and do not reuire ICD or ICSP

http://www.ez-devices.com/asp/listing.asp?cat=1

http://www.picaxe.com
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:17 am     Reply with quote

Back in the pre-ICSP days of OTP and UV erasable PICs (e.g. PIC16C72), they also sold boards to develop code on. What were those boards called?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:41 am     Reply with quote

This company sells development boards with the PIC programmer built into the board.

http://www.mikroelektronika.co.yu/english/
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