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Does wake-up from int clear WDT?

 
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Will Reeve



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Does wake-up from int clear WDT?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:38 am     Reply with quote

Picture the scene. PIC set up with a WDT at 2 seconds. State of the PIC is determined by iState variable. To send to sleep:

While (iState==sSleeping)
Sleep();

The way to wake the PIC up is via a RB interrupt which changes iState to be something else and the rest of the program generates restart_wdt() calls enough to keep everything running OK.

The first line of the RB interrupt is a restart_wdt() call.

My question is I can imagine that the pic can be very very close to generating a WDT wake-up when the RB interrupt happens, if the WDT overflow then happens the PIC will re-set because it’s running? I know the chances of this are small and I’ve not seen it in the design but is it possible? Or does the wake-up by RB interrupt automatically clears the WDT register in hardware to prevent this happening? The datasheet isn’t too clear on this matter.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:25 pm     Reply with quote

Can you post what PIC you're using ? This is a very hardware specific
question, and PICs might act differently in this area.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:29 pm     Reply with quote

It's a PIC18F452.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:47 pm     Reply with quote

Based on my reading of the reference manual, the safest thing to do
would be to place a CLRWDT instruction immediately after the SLEEP
instruction. See section 28.4.1, near the bottom of the page:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/39528.pdf
That way, as soon as the PIC wakes up from the INT_RB interrupt,
it will execute the CLRWDT instruction and then jump to the interrupt
vector, and then continue on through the CCS interrupt dispatcher.
Example:

sleep();
restart_wdt();


Still, there exists the question of what happens if the WDT fires
just as the PIC is waking up due to the INT_RB or during the
execution of the CLRWDT. I need a detailed timing diagram
which shows what happens at the Q1-Q4 level (ie., Fosc clock).
I can't find one in the Microchip literature, so far.
I have to build a prototype board, so I don't have any more time
to research this today, but it is an interesting question.
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Re: Does wake-up from int clear WDT?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:41 pm     Reply with quote

Will Reeve wrote:
Picture the scene. PIC set up with a WDT at 2 seconds. State of the PIC is determined by iState variable. To send to sleep:

While (iState==sSleeping)
Sleep();

The way to wake the PIC up is via a RB interrupt which changes iState to be something else and the rest of the program generates restart_wdt() calls enough to keep everything running OK.

The first line of the RB interrupt is a restart_wdt() call.

My question is I can imagine that the pic can be very very close to generating a WDT wake-up when the RB interrupt happens, if the WDT overflow then happens the PIC will re-set because it’s running? I know the chances of this are small and I’ve not seen it in the design but is it possible? Or does the wake-up by RB interrupt automatically clears the WDT register in hardware to prevent this happening? The datasheet isn’t too clear on this matter.

Will

For the mid range chips at least, MicroChip covers this in document 31026a.
It says there, that 'If an interrupt occurs, during or after the execution of a sleep instruction, the device will immediately wake-up from sleep. The sleep instruction will be completely executed before the wake-up. Therefore the WDT, and the WDT prescaler will be cleared'.
If you look at the instruction description for 'sleep' on the latter chips, this same logic is retained. The last part of the sleep instruction, clears the WDT (hence if you want to sleep for the entire watchdog time, and be woken by the watchdog, you should clear the watchdog timer on the instruction before the sleep).
So the answer is 'yes'.

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