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asjad
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 52 Location: Greater Manchester - UK
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Square wave to DC convertor |
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:14 am |
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Dear All,
Does anyone know how to convert a square wave into a DC signal
I have hgeard you can use a low pass filter OR a diode and a filter.
Ccan anyone help.
I need compnenet values or weblinks please!
Thank you
Asjad _________________ Best Regards |
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Ttelmah Guest
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Re: Square wave to DC convertor |
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:29 am |
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asjad wrote: | Dear All,
Does anyone know how to convert a square wave into a DC signal
I have hgeard you can use a low pass filter OR a diode and a filter.
Ccan anyone help.
I need compnenet values or weblinks please!
Thank you
Asjad |
Component values will depend on the frequency of the source.
What do you actually want to measure/return?. I suspect that in fact it is not a 'square wave', but a 'rectangular wave', and you want to produce a DC voltage proportional to the mark/space ratio?.
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asjad
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 52 Location: Greater Manchester - UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:55 am |
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Unfortunatly I do not know the frequency that will be coming out at this
stage.
THe output will be derived from a liquid flow meter.(output=pulses).
I wish that if a liquid is flowing I get a logic 1.
If no liquid flows I get a logic 0.
I will be using a 16f874's external interrupt
will this circuit do:
http://www.callerid.8m.com/mini/peakdet.htm
I am not sure how it works though
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FOr your original soloution proposal can you PLEASE
give me a formula to calculate R & C and the configuration!!
Best Regards
Asjad _________________ Best Regards |
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Humberto
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 1215 Location: Buenos Aires, La Reina del Plata
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:48 am |
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Hi asjad,
It will be easy & cheaper to do it using a rettriggerable monoestable multivibrator like the 74HC4538 or similar.
Configure the setup pins as retriggerable monoestable, feed the trigger input with the pulses coming from the flow meter and choosing the Q output you will get a stable HIGH state while the pulses kick the trigger input.
Connect to GND all unusued inputs
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Humberto |
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Ttelmah Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:06 am |
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asjad wrote: | Unfortunatly I do not know the frequency that will be coming out at this
stage.
THe output will be derived from a liquid flow meter.(output=pulses).
I wish that if a liquid is flowing I get a logic 1.
If no liquid flows I get a logic 0.
I will be using a 16f874's external interrupt
will this circuit do:
http://www.callerid.8m.com/mini/peakdet.htm
I am not sure how it works though
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FOr your original soloution proposal can you PLEASE
give me a formula to calculate R & C and the configuration!!
Best Regards
Asjad |
I'd consider using a CMOS 555 timer, set up as a 'missing pulse detector'. The big advantage is this gives quick switching when the pulse train stops, and does not result in the interrupt pin sitting at a potentially 'indeterminate' level (which can lead to the PIC drawing more power than expected...).
Look at:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html
Circuit 10a, is for such a detector. The time constant for the monostable used in it, is approximately T=1.1*R1*C1. The output pin will need a pull up resistor (the 555, has an 'open collector' drive output).
You are going to need to know the frequency of the pulse train, whatever solution you choose. Does the manufacturer have a data sheet, or stick a scope on the signal, and make some rough measurements.
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SherpaDoug
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1640 Location: Cape Cod Mass USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:39 am |
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The peak detector circuit with an op amp, or the missing pulse detector with the 555 are more accurate and more expensive than the diode + RC circuit I mentioned in an earlier post. It all depends on what accuracy you need. _________________ The search for better is endless. Instead simply find very good and get the job done. |
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dbotkin
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 197 Location: Omaha NE USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:06 pm |
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I dunno... you could do this with a monostable, but why bother adding parts? Just watch the flow meter output with one of your inputs. Use a short variable to indicate whether it's gone high within the last whatever period of time you want. I can think of several ways to do it, like using an interrupt-on-change, or a CCP input in capture mode, or if the pulses are long enough check it during an existing (or new) timer-driven ISR. Now you have the flexibility to change the time constant of your software "one-shot" to whatever you wish without having to change components.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a few lines of code can be worth a few dozen solder joints. Make sense? |
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