Re: Which programmer u use ?

[Yann]

Hi
I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
Thanks you
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[Mark]

I use a Promate II. Fast, reliable, tests device over a wide voltage range, made by Microchip, firmware upgradeable, free replacement if it fails, very expensive.

I have used the ICD2 also. This works well but does not test the device over a wide voltage range.

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you
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[Hans Wedemeyer]

:=I use a Promate II. Fast, reliable...

Interesting, I have a Promate II and it never works on Windows 98SE or Windows 2K(sp3)... I can only make it work using Real DOS(6.22) and comamnd line... Microchip sent a replacement and it was the same...

It would be correct to assume my computer has a strange/faulty Serial port, however that would then have to be the case for the 4 other computers I tried it on.

I interested to know if you had any problems at all and which OS are you running it on ?

Thanks
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[Dave Yeatman]

I do most of my work with the 16F87x series and I use the WARP13A with Engage! software for all of that. I use the Microchip ICD1 from Microchip for in circuit debug work.

I have used the WARP13A for some of the 18F series and I has worked very well so far with few problems except early on...

Dave
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[Gary Smithson]

:=I do most of my work with the 16F87x series and I use the WARP13A with Engage! software for all of that. I use the Microchip ICD1 from Microchip for in circuit debug work.
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:=I have used the WARP13A for some of the 18F series and I has worked very well so far with few problems except early on...
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:=Dave

Same here. The warp13 works well for me. From memory I have used it to program: 16F877, 16F876, 16C774, 16C773, 12CE519, and 12F675. I probably missed some. In general I think you would be happy with it.

Regards,
Gary S
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[Mark]

Windows 95B. I am about to switch over to Windows 2000 due to Win95 not being supported with MPLAB 6.0. I will let you know how it works.


:=:=I use a Promate II. Fast, reliable...
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:=Interesting, I have a Promate II and it never works on Windows 98SE or Windows 2K(sp3)... I can only make it work using Real DOS(6.22) and comamnd line... Microchip sent a replacement and it was the same...
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:=It would be correct to assume my computer has a strange/faulty Serial port, however that would then have to be the case for the 4 other computers I tried it on.
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:=I interested to know if you had any problems at all and which OS are you running it on ?
:=
:=Thanks
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[Martin Gordon]

Hi, I have been using a SmartProg from ELNEC. This does ICSP and DIL parts. It can program 1000s of devices, updates regularly on web. Pin drivers can source and sink large currents and hence ICSP works much better than ICD2 etc.
It does high and low Vcc programming checking and is fast.

Uses parrallel port.

Cost in UK about £250

My customers are using, no problems

Hope this helps

Martin
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[Sherpa Doug]

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you

I am a fan of the Dataman-48 by Dataman Programmers LTD. It seems to do everything well. At US$1300 is is not a hobbyist machine, but I have to work with chips from many manufacturers, and I have yet to meet a chip it couldn't handle.

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[Tomi]

I use my own programmer (designed and built by myself). The advantages to build a programmer yourself:
1. You have the source code for PIC inside the programmer so you can extend the functionality for new chips (to implement the new 18F series it was a hour or two).
2. You have the source code for PC so mine is running under every OSs but DOS (Win95,98,Me,NT4.0,2k,XP, etc.)
3. (Many $) * (many users) = (too many $) Here at the company everybody has a PIC programmer plus there are 2 or 3 additional programmers in battery-powered service suitcases :)

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you
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[lance_lascari]

Yeah, I do this too. As a hobbyist/pseudo-consultant I figure this would be a good way to get into pics -- do the programmer while learning the parts.

I've found this to be pretty useful. At this point my programmer works on win2k/xp, supports many midrange pics (12f6xx, 16f627/628, 16f87x, 16f87xA). Will probably make it all publicly available when it's cleaned up.

I also own a Warp13a, and would say that from what I can tell this has very high bang for the buck. If I wasn't interested in the programming/design of the programmer I was doing, the Warp13 would be all I think I would ever need...

-Lance



:=I use my own programmer (designed and built by myself). The advantages to build a programmer yourself:
:=1. You have the source code for PIC inside the programmer so you can extend the functionality for new chips (to implement the new 18F series it was a hour or two).
:=2. You have the source code for PC so mine is running under every OSs but DOS (Win95,98,Me,NT4.0,2k,XP, etc.)
:=3. (Many $) * (many users) = (too many $) <img src="http://www.ccsinfo.com/pix/forum/smile.gif" border="0"> Here at the company everybody has a PIC programmer plus there are 2 or 3 additional programmers in battery-powered service suitcases <img src="http://www.ccsinfo.com/pix/forum/smile.gif" border="0">
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:=:=Hi
:=:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=:=Thanks you
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[Mark DSylva]

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you


I have borrowed a Tech-tools QuickWriter from a friend and it seems to work very well for serial ICP. (16F873) It's $199US.
For more info, check out the supplied link.
It supposrt almost all PIC devices.

Mark
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[Laurent chouinard]

I use Microchip's Picstart Plus.

Pro: It supports everything and costs little.

Con: It's ridiculously slow.

I'm certain that they purposely slowed-down the programming speed of this programmer just because it's meant for "development" rather than production. Bleh! All my targets are going to be in-circuit programming anyway...
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[mcafzap]

If you have a project to get underway immediately, then there are at least 2 others worthy of consideration. Picstart Plus and FED's serial programmer - the latter being particularly cheap.
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[chas]

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you

I've been using the Melabs Epic. It's inexpensive and you can buy it in various states of assembly, with or without power supply, etc. Also, it can be used for individual device programming or ICSP, if you circuit is properly configured.
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[oscar]

:=Hi
:=I want to know which programmer you use and your comments about it.
:=Thanks you

I use the PICSTART PLUS from Microchip because it covers all of the PIC's available. I've had it since 1996 and haven't had the need to buy another one. It's $199 (US) but if it lasts +6 years it is a good buy even for an amateur.

I've read up on the thread that it's slow but then again I'm not in a race to see how many times I can program in a period of time. If people wanted to use the PICSTART PLUS for production programming it is easy to build a gang buffer programmer using the PICSTART PLUS signals to program as many parts as you like, it's easy. I'm not trying to give people ideas here but I just say it like it is.

o.
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