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cbkulatunge



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LED Signboard
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:06 am     Reply with quote

can anyone help me to design a LED sign board?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:54 am     Reply with quote

Hi,

I might be interested. Did you have a target pay scale in mind for the project Laughing ?

John
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:58 pm     Reply with quote

Would need to know
1) size of sign
2) pixel count ( x vs. y)
3) display data a) characters ( a-z, #s,etc)
or b) graphics
4) dynamic or static , update rate, refresh ,etc.
5) colour of LEDs, mono,RGB, ?
6) power per LED , pixel?
7) indoor, ourdoor ?
8) data entry interface, PC link,keypad,usb flashdrive,wifi ?
9) message length,# of messages,
10) do you want schematics,code,Proof of Concept prototype,Alpha module ?
11) portable or fixed, available power( 120,240,1ph,3ph,battery )?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:23 am     Reply with quote

first i would like try small indoor one like 8x64.
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Re: LED Signboard
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:35 am     Reply with quote

cbkulatunge wrote:
can anyone help me to design a LED sign board?


Your best bet is to go to Sams Clubs or Staples and buy one.

(Sam's Sells an RGB model made by AMS that works great over serial/usb).


I have mine connected via bluetooth dongle (although used to be on the network via serial->ip host) that's run by a bunch of scripts.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:09 pm     Reply with quote

that's cheating !!!

You're supposed to spend hundreds of dollars on parts, and a thousand man hours cutting code and burning fingers THEN go buy one off the shelf !!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:38 pm     Reply with quote

temtronic wrote:
that's cheating !!!

You're supposed to spend hundreds of dollars on parts, and a thousand man hours cutting code and burning fingers THEN go buy one off the shelf !!


Only if the sign doesn't do what the ones off the shelf don't do.

And trust me, I have 2 of these things and AMS did a nice job.

One is RGB I've had for a few years, the other is RG (no B) that I've had for like 15yrs and still works awesome.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:33 am     Reply with quote

Thanx for reply guys,
I really want to design it my self. First give me some theory of operation.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:13 am     Reply with quote

theory is simple,
You want to turn on and off a matrix of LEDs based on some 'data'.
Step one is to program a PIC with 8 LEDs(and current limiting resistors) connected to one port. Cut code to turn on 1 LED,then expand your code for more LEDS and patterns.

Step two would be to cut additional code to allow the 'pattern' to be sent from say a PC and then displayed on the 8 LEDs.

For you 8 by 64 display of LEDs, I'd probably use 4 pcs of MC14514, 4 to 16 decoder chips.This would only require 1 port(8 bits) for the data(row of LEDs, on or off) and 1 port(8 bits) to control which of the 64 columns the data is to be displayed.Each column will need a transistor driver and current limiting resistor.

Since this is a matix display, a refresh rate will have to be determined, usually less than 100 Hz,

Step 3, wire up just 1 of the decoders and get it all to work. Once you're happy with the 8 by 16 display, just add 3 more decoder circuits and cut more code...

There are other chips than the one I suggested to build the circuit, but it's tried and true and easy to figure out.I've used it for 3 decades.You can even get single 40 pin PIC to do the whole project,depending on your skill level.
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