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trouble replacing internal osc with xtal in 18F2620

 
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trouble replacing internal osc with xtal in 18F2620
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:34 pm     Reply with quote

I have a board using a PIC18F2620 that has pads for an SMD
crystal. Previously, this board was used without the
crystal and with the internal oscillator. There are no
capacitors with the crystal; I was told that they were
unnecessary if the traces were under half an inch (true?).

I have been unable to make the 18F2620 run at anything
other than 8 mHz, as determined by the the delay_ms test. I
assume that the internal oscillator is taking over due to
some problem with the crystal.

I have tried this with a 16 mHz crystal (with and without
12 pF caps), it produces a 2 ms pulse when delay_ms is 1 ms
and clock=16000000. With a 20 mHz SMD crystal and no caps
the pulse is 2.5 ms instead of 1 ms with clock=20000000.

I have tried many combinations of the fuses listed under
"// CLOCK-related" below, the other lines were kept the
same.

I would like to run the 18F2620 at 20 mHZ with a 20 mHz
crystal. Questions are: 1) are caps required on the crystal
if the leads are very short (~1/4" in this case) 2) What is
the correct #FUSE configuration to run it at 20 mHz with a
20 mHz crystal?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Using CCS C 4.106. Here's my (latest variation of) MAIN.H:


Code:

#include <18F2620.h>
#device adc=10
#device PASS_STRINGS=IN_RAM

#FUSES NOWDT                    //No Watch Dog Timer
//#FUSES WDT128                   //Watch Dog Timer uses 1:128 Postscale
#FUSES NOPROTECT                //Code not protected from reading
#FUSES BROWNOUT               //brownout reset
//#FUSES BORV21                   //Brownout reset at 2.1V
#FUSES NOCPD                    //No EE protection
#FUSES STVREN                   //Stack full/underflow will cause reset
#FUSES NODEBUG                  //No Debug mode for ICD
#FUSES NOLVP                    //No low voltage prgming, B3(PIC16) or B5(PIC18) used for I/O
#FUSES NOWRT                    //Program memory not write protected
#FUSES NOWRTD                   //Data EEPROM not write protected
#FUSES NOEBTR                   //Memory not protected from table reads
#FUSES NOCPB                    //No Boot Block code protection
#FUSES NOEBTRB                  //Boot block not protected from table reads
#FUSES NOWRTC                   //configuration not registers write protected
#FUSES NOWRTB                   //Boot block not write protected
#FUSES NOXINST                  //Extended set extension and Indexed Addressing mode disabled (Legacy mode)
#FUSES PBADEN                   //PORTB pins are configured as analog input channels on RESET
#FUSES NOMCLR                   //Master Clear pin used for I/O

// CLOCK-related
//#FUSES XT                   //XTAL 
//#FUSES HS                   //High speed Osc (> 4mhz for PCM/PCH) (>10mhz for PCD)
//#FUSES FCMEN              //Fail-safe clock monitor
#FUSES PUT                  // Power Up Timer
//#FUSES LPT1OSC              //Timer1 low-power operation
#FUSES NOIESO               //*Internal External Switch Over mode
//#FUSES IESO               //*Internal External Switch Over mode
                     
#use delay(clock=20000000,crystal)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:07 pm     Reply with quote

Quote:
I was told that they were unnecessary if the traces were under half an
inch (true?).

Wrong. You need the capacitors. Two 22 pf caps will work.

Quote:
I would like to run the 18F2620 at 20 mHZ with a 20 mHz
crystal.

Use the HS fuse.

Quote:

I have a board using a PIC18F2620 that has pads for an SMD crystal.

Post a link to the web page for the board.
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trouble replacing internal osc with xtal in 18F2620
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:19 pm     Reply with quote

Wow, that was a quick reply! Thank you.

Quote:

Post a link to the web page for the board.


The board was designed by someone long gone, it's not
not a publicly available part.

I'll try the higher-value caps and HS alone from the
"clock" related group.
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