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pwm motor control via pc?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:28 am     Reply with quote

hello
pwm motor control does not work correctly. I want to control motor with pwm via pc keyboard. When I press 1 ,2,3,4 or 5 . each number must be different motor speed value. So I search and try and I prepared a circuit and I try to write a code. But everytime motor speed same even I press different number 1 from 5. please help me. my circuit and code as below




Code:
#include <16F877.h>
#FUSES HS,NOWDT                   
#use delay(clock=4000000)   
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_C6,rcv=PIN_C7,bits=8)

void main()
{
byte duty;
char a ;
setup_ccp1(CCP_PWM);   
setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16,124,1);     

   while(true)
   {
   if (kbhit())
 {
       a=getch();
      if (a=='1')
      {
      delay_ms(100);
      duty = 31;
      set_pwm1_duty(duty);
      }
     
      if (a=='2')
      {
      delay_ms(100);
      duty = 62;
      set_pwm1_duty(duty);
      }
     
      if (a=='3')
      {
      delay_ms(100);
      duty = 124;
      set_pwm1_duty(duty);
      }
     
      if (a=='4')
      {
      delay_ms(100);
      duty = 256;
      set_pwm1_duty(duty);
      }
      if (a=='5')
      {
      delay_ms(100);
      duty = 512;
      set_pwm1_duty(duty);
      }
     
 }
    }
}
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:31 am     Reply with quote

Does this seem right to you?

Code:

byte duty;

//and later on

duty = 512;

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:00 am     Reply with quote

I tried as int or long result is same
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:18 am     Reply with quote

Let's assume you are using 8bit PWM for now.
You have this:

Code:

setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16,124,1);     

which means if duty = 124 you get 100% duty cycle already. So a lot of your code will not work. You need to make duty between zero and 124 to get 0 to 100% duty cycle.

IF you want more resolution you need 10 bit pwm. In this case you have to declare duty as type int16 equivalently long. The actual duty cycle would be DC = (duty/4) / 124. For example you can have:

Code:

int16 duty = 62;
set_pwm1_duty(duty); //gives 12.5% duty cycle


or
Code:

int16 duty = 248;
set_pwm1_duty(duty); //gives 50% duty cycle
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:06 am     Reply with quote

I changed my code as your suggestion, but motor speed is same when I press 2 or 4, and cycle seems same, not change. so my problem continue.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:40 am     Reply with quote

Your PWM is at about 500 Hz. Is that what you want ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:53 am     Reply with quote

actually my problem is that:

I want to drive motor with pwm via pc. Only when we pressed buttons from 1 to 5. Motor speed must be change. In other cases dc motor must not work, only motor must work with pc keyboard. What is your code suggestion. It is not important 500 Hz. Important things motor speed control and motor speed must be from slowest to fastest. Yes I am waiting your suggestions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:55 am     Reply with quote

You have to take it one step at a time.

Forget the PC for now. Try setting the PWM to 50% duty cycle, probe the output with a scope and see whether you get the right waveform. Then try setting the duty cycle to 12.5% for example and repeat the experiment. Once you verified that the PIC is giving the right output you can try to incorporate the PC.

Also, if it is a DC motor you probably have to RC filter the output of the PWM (something like a 10K and 1uF).

Also, shouldn't Vs- on the MAX232 go straight to GND? It looks like you have it going to C4 and the other side of C4 to GND. Vs+ should go to C3 AND go to the positive supply. The other side of C3 should go to GND.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:42 am     Reply with quote

mkuang wrote:
Let's assume you are using 8bit PWM for now.
You have this:

Code:

setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16,124,1);     

which means if duty = 124 you get 100% duty cycle already. So a lot of your code will not work. You need to make duty between zero and 124 to get 0 to 100% duty cycle.



Hi guys, there is no a direct relation between the duty and 124,
because the 124 represent the a value place in PR2 register, i.e.
determine the PWM period. CCPR1L is responsible about
the duty cycle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:49 am     Reply with quote

@capella
You connected C4 in reverse form, the negative terminal should connect
to Pin6 instead of the positive terminal.

You do not need to connect two transistors to drive the D.C motor, just
one FET will be ok, like VN66.

Now, correct your circuit and tell us about the results.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:56 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
Hi guys, there is no a direct relation between the duty and 124,

This is wrong. There is a direct relationship between the duty cycle
and the middle value in the setup_timer_2() function.
See this post for the equation:
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42417&start=3
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:27 am     Reply with quote

I can see motor speed that:
Code:

#include <16F877.h>
#fuses XT, NOWDT, NOPROTECT, BROWNOUT, PUT, NOLVP
#use delay(clock=4000000)
#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_C6, rcv=PIN_C7, ERRORS)

void main()
{
char a;
int pwm_duty;
output_low(pin_c2);
setup_ccp1(CCP_PWM);       
 
setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16, 127, 1);

     pwm_duty =16;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =32;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =64;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =127;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =128;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
   
while(1);   
}

but when I tried that
Code:

#include <16F877.h>
#fuses XT, NOWDT, NOPROTECT, BROWNOUT, PUT, NOLVP
#use delay(clock=4000000)
#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_C6, rcv=PIN_C7, ERRORS)

void main()
{
char a;
int pwm_duty;
output_low(pin_c2);
setup_ccp1(CCP_PWM);       
 
setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16, 127, 1);

while(true)
{
if (kbhit())

 a=getch();
if (a=='1')
{
     pwm_duty =16;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
}
if (a=='2')
{
     pwm_duty =32;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
}
if (a=='3')
{
     pwm_duty =64;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =127;
}
if(a=='4') 
{
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
     delay_ms(200);
     pwm_duty =128;
     set_pwm1_duty(pwm_duty);
}

  }
}   
 
}


I could not control motor speed with pc keyboard. What is wrong? I just want to motor speed with keyboard. Only my problem is that I can not control motor speed via pc keyboard.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:21 am     Reply with quote

It has been pointed out that your RS232 chip is not connected properly. Therefore you cannot possibly be getting the correct input from your PC. You are never getting a kbhit() so none of your set_pwm_duty code ever gets executed. Please correct the power and ground connections on the RS232 chip. You will be surprised to see how well it works if you wired everything correctly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:22 am     Reply with quote

All of the connections are ok. And also in proteus and real circuit dont work correctly. Why?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:28 am     Reply with quote

capella wrote:
All of the connections are ok. And also in proteus and real circuit dont work correctly. Why?

Take a voltmeter and check to see whether you get -10V or so on V- and +10V on V+.
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