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Weird MMC FAT16 Behaviour

 
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Weird MMC FAT16 Behaviour
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:59 am     Reply with quote

Hello all,

I managed to get ex_fat.c from the PICC library working. Currently, I'm experiencing the same problem as matt1971 (http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36580). I'm able to write files to a MMC card but I'm not able to see those files using the PC and vice versa. According to asmallri, this is due to the PIC not correctly interpreting the MBR. Any idea how to solve this problem? Here are the details:

Compiler version: PCWHD 4.057
PIC processor: PIC18LF4550
Clock frequency: 20MHz external oscillator
PIC running at 3.3V

Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:23 pm     Reply with quote

Master Boot Record
I google that MBR

So the MBR contain all the info on the structure of the card, size, how many sector, etc. )

so if we screw up the MBR, the SD card is a BIG eeprom! When we plug it into a computer, the MBR is screwed and the computer can not recognize the info.

My friend has the SD card running with C18, I might have a look how he formats the card.

In the ex_fat.c line 314 there is that function call format() and can not find it. I guest we could start by looking how it does the magic.

ps- I am the guy who tested the ex_fat.c on your other post.
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118356#118356


Here is where I got some info. ( French )
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/electronique/147597-pic-spi-memoire-mmc.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:53 pm     Reply with quote

Here is some other info on the MBR

http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01045b.pdf


Here is the contents of the MBR.

    Offset____Description ___________________Size
    000h____Boot Code (machine code and data)._____446 bytes
    1BEh____Partition Entry 1. ____________________16 bytes
    1CEh____Partition Entry 2._____________________16 bytes
    1DEh____Partition Entry 3. ____________________16 bytes
    1EEh____ Partition Entry 4.____________________16 bytes
    1FEh____Boot Signature Code (55h AAh)._________2 bytes



I think with WinHEX we can see the MBR...
http://www.x-ways.net/winhex/index-m.html

and yes you can, In sector 0 I can read FAT 12 and the rest is all weird ascii text.

I got other things to do, I might check later.
Ps - My friend just gave me his code for the SD card using C18, and he use the 18F4680 and I use the 18LF4685. The code takes a lot of space so you need a big pic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:00 pm     Reply with quote

robomaniac wrote:
Master Boot Record
I google that MBR

So the MBR contain all the info on the structure of the card, size, how many sector, etc. )

so if we screw up the MBR, the SD card is a BIG eeprom! When we plug it into a computer, the MBR is screwed and the computer can not recognize the info.

My friend has the SD card running with C18, I might have a look how he formats the card.

In the ex_fat.c line 314 there is that function call format() and can not find it. I guest we could start by looking how it does the magic.

ps- I am the guy who tested the ex_fat.c on your other post.
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118356#118356


Here is where I got some info. ( French )
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/electronique/147597-pic-spi-memoire-mmc.html


Hi Jérôme,

Thanks for all the info Smile

The format() function can be found in line 2868 in the fat.c driver.

That's all I can say at the moment. I'll try to give an update later Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:29 am     Reply with quote

While looking through the format() function in the fat.c driver, I noticed something. In line 2919,
Code:
char BS_FilSysType[] = "FAT12   ";


Isn't it supposed to be:
Code:
char BS_FilSysType[] = "FAT16   ";


Anyhow, I did try changing it and running the codes. However, the results are still the same. Both the PIC and the PC are still unable to see files created by each other. Sad
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