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RS485 enable pin - manual or automatic (strange behaviour)

 
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lisek_lichu



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RS485 enable pin - manual or automatic (strange behaviour)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:52 pm     Reply with quote

Hello my dear friends,

I have another freaky question.

I'm trying to write a simple communication between PC and PIC.

communication diagram is below:

PC <-> MAX232 <-> MAX485 <-> ........<->MAX485<->PIC
I use a RTC signal from PC as an enable pin.

I have two very simple programs:

FIRST
Code:

#include <16F628A.h>
#include <F628.h>

#fuses XT, NOPROTECT, NOCPD, NOLVP, NOWDT, NOBROWNOUT, PUT
#use delay(clock=4M)
#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_B2, enable=PIN_B3, rcv=PIN_B1, errors, stream=PC)
void main()
{
   fprintf(PC,"test_1");
   fprintf(PC,"test_2\r\n");
   fprintf(PC,"test_3\r\n\r\n");
   fputc('a',PC);
   fputc('b',PC);
   fputc('c',PC);
   fputc('d',PC);
}




SECOND
Code:


#include <16F628A.h>
#include <F628.h>

#fuses XT, NOPROTECT, NOCPD, NOLVP, NOWDT, NOBROWNOUT, PUT
#use delay(clock=4M)
#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_B2, rcv=PIN_B1, errors, stream=PC)
void main()
{
   output_high(PIN_B3);
   fprintf(PC,"test_1");
   fprintf(PC,"test_2\r\n");
   fprintf(PC,"test_3\r\n\r\n");
   fputc('a',PC);
   fputc('b',PC);
   fputc('c',PC);
   fputc('d',PC);
   output_high(PIN_B3)
}



the only difference is that FIRST has enable pin option in "#use rs232" and SECOND has not and i use manual output_high before sending some bytes and output_low after sending.


look what PC received:

FIRST
Code:

test_1test_2
test_3

abcd


SECOND
Code:

test_1test_2
test_3

ab


why I dint receive "cd"?

can anyone answer me?


also when the code is:
Code:

void main()
{
   output_high(PIN_B3);
   fprintf(PC,"test_2");
   output_low(PIN_B3);
}

and i use manual output_high and output_low i receive only:
Code:
test

so again last 2 characters are missing

Best regards
Lisek
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:05 pm     Reply with quote

The PIC goes to sleep. CCS puts a SLEEP at the end of main().
Put a while(1); at the end of main() to prevent this problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:25 pm     Reply with quote

PCM programmer wrote:
The PIC goes to sleep. CCS puts a SLEEP at the end of main().
Put a while(1); at the end of main() to prevent this problem.



this is not a problem

Code:

void main()
{
   output_high(PIN_B3);
   fprintf(PC,"test_2");
   output_low(PIN_B3);
   while(TRUE);
}


this code do exactly the same

PC received:
Code:

test


also 2 last characters missing

when I use enable option in #use rs232 this problem disappears. So what is the cause of this behaviour?


Lisek
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:05 pm     Reply with quote

Why did you start a new thread on this issue? You've already got the the same problem being discussed in your original thread.

John
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:24 am     Reply with quote

If you are using a hardware UART the fprintf() function only puts the bytes into the UART buffer. You are disabling the 485 driver while the UART is still clocking out serial bits.

You should poll the UART busy flag to see when it is done before disabling the 485 driver.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:07 am     Reply with quote

ezflyr wrote:
Why did you start a new thread on this issue? You've already got the the same problem being discussed in your original thread.

John


Hello John, this is not the same problem. this is another thing i have found during my tests and I just don't want to put another thing into one thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

It is tied up with the other thread. One poster had asked if the enable was being handled correctly, and the reply had already been posted in the other thread.

Keep the threads about one problem together.

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