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PIC16F917, in built LCD in 1/3 mux
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:54 am     Reply with quote

Hello,

I am working on PIC16f917 & using 7 seg. LCD in 1/3 multiplexing mode.
I am using PCM compiler version 3.
I use standard program given in CCS example file.
but at a time two segments are turned on when i try to glow only one
segment.
first it glow SEG 1 of COM0 & COM1 when i try for SEG1 of COM0 only
2nd it glow SEG 1 of COM1 & COM2 when i try for SEG1 of COM1 only
2nd it glow SEG 1 of COM2 & COM1 when i try for SEG1 of COM2 only

Plz help me to solve this problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:21 am     Reply with quote

These two threads have sample code for using segmented LCDs
with CCS. Both of these examples use 1/4 bias. Study this code
and try to make it work for your application. I don't really want
to do any more LCD drivers. The information in these two sample
programs should be enough to help you write your own LCD driver.
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32774
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33377
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Not satishfied
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:35 am     Reply with quote

Dear friend
thanks for u r reply but,

before i put my problem , to this forum
i have tried all the ways to solve this problem.
i already use the code u have suggested but i am not able to solve the problem.
i am not able to understand is it LCD problem or PCM cross compiler problem or whatever code i have written.
Even i have try Waveform B & LCD interrupt also to resolve this problem
but each time result is same.

Please Please help me.
Shambhu


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:47 pm     Reply with quote

Did you buy the LCD board or did you make the board by yourself ?
If you bought the board, then post the manufacturer and part number
of the board. Also post a link to the board's web page.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:49 pm     Reply with quote

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I use standard program given in CCS example file.

Did you make changes necessary to adapt the code to the 1/3 mux used by your LCD?

Generally, I suggest to check the SFR settings carried out by the driver against the expected setup according to the PIC16F917 data sheet with the debugger. I noticed, that some settings, e. g. 1/2 or 1/3 bias mode are apparently done implicitely by lcd_setup() and neither changeable nor documented. (The said 1/4 bias doens't exist, BTW). I guess, that 1/3 bias is used for all multiplex modes.
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I got soln with new problem
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:36 am     Reply with quote

Dear friend,

When I invert all the signals the 1/3 multiplexed LCD works
properly. I turn on & off each segment separately, e.g. to turn on seg1.

LCD_SYMBOL(0xFE, DIGIT1);

This turns on only SEG0 of Digit one.
Now new problem arise.
To display no. 3, I must turn on SEG A of COM0 COM1 & COM2. When such situation arise, LCD display 3 & then after few moment it display 1. i.e. seg with COM0 COM1 & COM2 turn on then it shows problem.
Pl.Help
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LCD Problem
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am     Reply with quote

Hi,
I am using CCS's PCM 4.13 cross compiler & PIC 16f917 IC
to drive BEL's B303 1/3 mux 7 seg LCD.
when i try to turn on 3 seg of com0 all three seg are turned off.
when i try to turn on 2 seg of com0 it works properly.
as well as my VLCD voltages are fluctuating .
anybody can help me ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:05 pm     Reply with quote

I asked you these questions above. You did not answer:
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Did you buy the LCD board or did you make the board by yourself ?
If you bought the board, then post the manufacturer and part number
of the board. Also post a link to the board's web page.

Also, post a link to the data sheet for your LCD.

We are not mind-readers.
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LCD problem
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:39 pm     Reply with quote

I have mfg my own board.
I am using BEL's B303 LCD.
Attaching datasheet Link for LCD.
Schematic is as follow.
Code:
PIC16f917 Pin No.    LCD B303 Pin no.
      27                   1
      28                   2
      29                   3
      30                   4
      33                   5
      34                   6
      35                   7
      36                   8
       8                   9
       9                  10
      10                  11
      22                  12
      37                 COM0
      38                 COM1
       4                 COM2

VLCD1,2,3 are connected as specified in datasheet.

Link for LCD datasheet. Selected LCD is B303.

http://www.bel-india.com/BELWebsite/images/Liquid%20Crystal%20Display.pdf
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:21 am     Reply with quote

Post the test program that you have written.
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Test Program
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:39 am     Reply with quote

Hello PCM Programmer
Attaching program for reference

Code:

/*-----------------------------------------------------------*/
#if defined(__PCM__)
#include <16F917.h>
#DEVICE ICD=TRUE
#fuses INTRC_IO,NOWDT,NOPROTECT
#use delay(clock=8000000)
#endif

#define VLCD_ENABLE   0x10
#byte CMCON0   = 0x9c
#byte SEGEN0   = 0x11c
#byte SEGEN1   = 0x11d
#byte SEGEN2   = 0x11e
#byte PIR2      = 0x0D
#byte PIE2      = 0x10B
#byte LCDPS      = 0x108
#byte INTCON   = 0x0B
#byte LCDCON   = 0x107
#bit  LCDEN      = LCDCON.7
#bit  LCDIF      = PIR2.4

int1 FlagFrame = 0;
//------------------COM0 as LSB------------------------------
#define DIGIT4   COM0+17, COM1+18, COM2+17, COM1+17, COM0+18, COM1+19, COM2+19, COM2+18
#define DIGIT3   COM0+20, COM1+0 , COM2+20, COM1+20, COM0+0 , COM1+1 , COM2+1 , COM2+0
#define DIGIT2   COM0+2 , COM1+3 , COM2+2 , COM1+2 , COM0+3 , COM1+21, COM2+21, COM2+3
#define DIGIT1   COM0+22, COM1+23, COM2+22, COM1+22, COM0+23, COM1+16, COM2+16, COM2+23
//-------------------------------------------------------------
#define CON      COM0+16
#define DIG5MS   COM0+19
#define MINUSE   COM0+1
#define BAT      COM0+21
/*------------------------------------------------------------*/
byte const Seg7[11] =
{   0xc0,   //0
   0xf9,   //1
   0xa4,   //2
   0xb0,   //3
   0x99,   //4
   0x92,   //5
   0x82,   //6
   0xf8,   //7
   0x80,   //8
   0x90,   //9
   0xff   //BLANK
};

void main()
{
   int8 i = 0,j=0,k,l;

   CMCON0 = 0x07;
/*
   INTCON = 0xC0;   
   LCDCON = 0x9A;
   LCDPS  = 0xB5;
   PIE2   = 0x10;
   LCDIF  = 0;
*/
   SEGEN0 = 0x0f;
   SEGEN1 = 0;
   SEGEN2 = 0xff;

   setup_lcd(LCD_MUX13| VLCD_ENABLE,5);

   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,DIGIT1);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,DIGIT2);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,DIGIT3);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,DIGIT4);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,BAT);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,MINUSE);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,DIG5MS);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0xff,CON);
   delay_ms(1000);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0,DIGIT1);
   delay_ms(1000);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0,DIGIT2);
   delay_ms(1000);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0,DIGIT3);
   delay_ms(1000);
   LCD_SYMBOL(0,DIGIT4);
   delay_ms(1000);

   while(TRUE)
   {
      for(i=0;i<4;i++)
      {
         for(j=0;j<9;j++)
            {
               LCD_SYMBOL(Seg7[1],DIGIT1);
               LCD_SYMBOL(Seg7[4],DIGIT2);
               LCD_SYMBOL(Seg7[7],DIGIT3);
               LCD_SYMBOL(Seg7[1],DIGIT4);
               delay_ms(1000);
            }
      }
   }
}
/*-----------------------------------------------------------*/

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:43 am     Reply with quote

I think your program has a large number of errors in it.

For example, you have these definitions for the segments for Digit 1:
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#define DIGIT1 COM0+22, COM1+23, COM2+22, COM1+22, COM0+23, COM1+16, COM2+16, COM2+23


I looked at your data sheet for the LCD 303. It's on pages 55 and 56.
It has a chart showing the internal connections in the LCD, between the
pins and the segments and the commons. Then I looked at your
table of connections between the PIC pins and the LCD. With that
information, I then made this table, which shows the assignment of
PIC segment drivers and COMs to the character segments on the LCD.
Code:

Seg  Com0 Com1 Com2     
17    4F,  4E,  5DP
18    4A,  4G,  4D
19    4B,  4C,  5BC
20    3F,  3E,  4DP
 0    3A,  3G,  3D
 1    3B,  3C,  --
 2    2F,  2E,  3DP
 3    2A,  2G,  2D
21    2B,  2C,  BATT
22    1F,  1E,  2DP
23    1A,  1G,  1D
16    1B,  1C,  CONT

With that table, you can write the #define statements for the CCS
lcd functions. For the right-hand digit (Digit #1), these are the
correct definitions. (I don't know how you invented your definitions):
Code:

//               1A       1B        1C       1D      1E       1F       1G      2DP         
#define DIGIT1 COM0+23, COM0+16, COM1+16, COM2+23, COM1+22, COM0+22, COM1+23, COM2+22

The correct #define statements also need to be written for Digits 2, 3, 4.


Then you have this table in your code:
Quote:
byte const Seg7[11] =
{ 0xc0, //0
0xf9, //1
0xa4, //2
0xb0, //3
0x99, //4
0x92, //5
0x82, //6
0xf8, //7
0x80, //8
0x90, //9
0xff //BLANK
};

I don't know how you made this table. It looks like you are
doing inverted definitions. The standard table looks like this:
Code:
//         character         0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9
byte const Digit_Map[10] = {0xFC,0x60,0xDA,0xF2,0x66,0xB6,0xBE,0xE0,0xFE,0xE6};


Then in the rest of your code you sometimes use the CCS lcd functions,
but sometimes you write directly to registers. Also, you have tons of
code to setup other symbols. Then you try to write a loop to display
lots of characters. You should only try to write 12345 initially.
Just see if you can get the LCD to do that one simple thing. Basically,
you need to fix all your code. I don't really want to do it for you.
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Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:38 am     Reply with quote

Hello PCM programmer,

Thank you very much.
you have taken lot of effort to find out problems.
I will implement your suggestions as early as possible.
for now i will say only
Thanks again & again

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LCD Problem
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:08 am     Reply with quote

Hi,
I have implemented all suggestions.
but still its not working.
hence attaching code.
Code:
/
*-------------------------------------------------------*/
#if defined(__PCM__)
#include <16F917.h>
#fuses INTRC_IO,NOWDT,NOPROTECT
#use delay(clock=8000000)
#endif
#define VLCD_ENABLE   0x10
// Digit segments  A        B        C        D        E        F        G        DP
//                 b7       b6       b5       b4       b3       b2       b1       b0
/*-------------------------------------------------------*/
#define DIGIT4   COM0+18, COM0+19, COM1+19, COM2+18, COM1+17, COM0+17, COM1+18, COM2+17
#define DIGIT3   COM0+0 , COM0+1 , COM1+1 , COM2+0 , COM1+20, COM0+20, COM1+0 , COM2+20
#define DIGIT2   COM0+3 , COM0+21, COM1+21, COM2+3 , COM1+2 , COM0+2 , COM1+3 , COM2+2
#define DIGIT1   COM0+23, COM0+16, COM1+16, COM2+23, COM1+22, COM0+22, COM1+23, COM2+22
//--------------------------------------------------------
// The following array tells the CCS lcd_symbol() function which
// segments to turn on, to display the numbers from 0 to 9.
//                           0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9  Blank
byte const Digit_Map[11] ={0xFC,0x60,0xDA,0xF2,0x66,0xB6,0xBE,0xE0,0xFE,0xE6,0x00};
#define BLANK 0  // For a blank digit, don't turn on any segments.


//===================================
void main()
{
   delay_ms(100);
   setup_lcd(LCD_MUX13|VLCD_ENABLE, 5);
   while(TRUE)
   {
      LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[1],DIGIT1);
      LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[2],DIGIT2);
      LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[3],DIGIT3);
      LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[4],DIGIT4);
      delay_ms(2000);
   }
}
/*----------------------------------------------------------*/
 


List file generated is:

Code:

CCS PCM C Compiler, Version 4.076                19-Sep-08 11:32

               Filename: uCN-1100.lst

               ROM used: 214 words (3%)
                         Largest free fragment is 2048
               RAM used: 7 (2%) at main() level
                         8 (2%) worst case
               Stack:    1 locations

*
0000:  MOVLW  00
0001:  MOVWF  0A
0002:  GOTO   018
0003:  NOP
.................... #if defined(__PCM__)
.................... #include <16F917.h>
.................... //////// Standard Header file for the PIC16F917 device ////////////////
.................... #device PIC16F917
.................... #list
.................... 
.................... #fuses INTRC_IO,NOWDT,NOPROTECT
.................... #use delay(clock=8000000)
0004:  MOVLW  22
0005:  MOVWF  04
0006:  BCF    03.7
0007:  MOVF   00,W
0008:  BTFSC  03.2
0009:  GOTO   017
000A:  MOVLW  02
000B:  MOVWF  78
000C:  CLRF   77
000D:  DECFSZ 77,F
000E:  GOTO   00D
000F:  DECFSZ 78,F
0010:  GOTO   00C
0011:  MOVLW  97
0012:  MOVWF  77
0013:  DECFSZ 77,F
0014:  GOTO   013
0015:  DECFSZ 00,F
0016:  GOTO   00A
0017:  RETLW  00
.................... #endif
.................... #define VLCD_ENABLE   0x10
.................... // Digit segments  A        B        C        D        E        F        G        DP 
.................... //                 b7       b6       b5       b4       b3       b2       b1       b0 
.................... /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
.................... #define DIGIT4   COM0+18, COM0+19, COM1+19, COM2+18, COM1+17, COM0+17, COM1+18, COM2+17
.................... #define DIGIT3   COM0+0 , COM0+1 , COM1+1 , COM2+0 , COM1+20, COM0+20, COM1+0 , COM2+20
.................... #define DIGIT2   COM0+3 , COM0+21, COM1+21, COM2+3 , COM1+2 , COM0+2 , COM1+3 , COM2+2 
.................... #define DIGIT1   COM0+23, COM0+16, COM1+16, COM2+23, COM1+22, COM0+22, COM1+23, COM2+22
.................... //--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.................... // The following array tells the CCS lcd_symbol() function which 
.................... // segments to turn on, to display the numbers from 0 to 9. 
.................... //                           0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9  Blank
.................... byte const Digit_Map[11] ={0xFC,0x60,0xDA,0xF2,0x66,0xB6,0xBE,0xE0,0xFE,0xE6,0x00};
.................... #define BLANK 0  // For a blank digit, don't turn on any segments. 
.................... 
.................... 
.................... //=================================== 
.................... void main() 
.................... {
0018:  CLRF   04
0019:  BCF    03.7
001A:  MOVLW  1F
001B:  ANDWF  03,F
001C:  MOVLW  71
001D:  BSF    03.5
001E:  MOVWF  0F
001F:  MOVF   0F,W
0020:  BCF    03.5
0021:  BSF    03.6
0022:  CLRF   07
0023:  CLRF   08
0024:  MOVLW  0F
0025:  MOVWF  1C
0026:  CLRF   1D
0027:  MOVLW  FF
0028:  MOVWF  1E
0029:  BCF    03.6
002A:  BCF    1F.5
002B:  BCF    1F.6
002C:  MOVLW  00
002D:  BSF    03.5
002E:  MOVWF  11
002F:  CLRF   17
0030:  MOVLW  07
0031:  MOVWF  1C
....................    delay_ms(100);
0032:  MOVLW  64
0033:  BCF    03.5
0034:  MOVWF  22
0035:  CALL   004
....................    setup_lcd(LCD_MUX13|VLCD_ENABLE, 5); 
0036:  MOVLW  92
0037:  BSF    03.6
0038:  MOVWF  07
0039:  MOVLW  25
003A:  MOVWF  08
....................    while(TRUE)
....................    {
....................       LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[1],DIGIT1);
003B:  BSF    08.4
003C:  MOVLW  60
003D:  MOVWF  77
003E:  BTFSS  77.7
003F:  BCF    12.7
0040:  BTFSC  77.7
0041:  BSF    12.7
0042:  BTFSS  77.6
0043:  BCF    12.0
0044:  BTFSC  77.6
0045:  BSF    12.0
0046:  BTFSS  77.5
0047:  BCF    15.0
0048:  BTFSC  77.5
0049:  BSF    15.0
004A:  BTFSS  77.4
004B:  BCF    18.7
004C:  BTFSC  77.4
004D:  BSF    18.7
004E:  BTFSS  77.3
004F:  BCF    15.6
0050:  BTFSC  77.3
0051:  BSF    15.6
0052:  BTFSS  77.2
0053:  BCF    12.6
0054:  BTFSC  77.2
0055:  BSF    12.6
0056:  BTFSS  77.1
0057:  BCF    15.7
0058:  BTFSC  77.1
0059:  BSF    15.7
005A:  BTFSS  77.0
005B:  BCF    18.6
005C:  BTFSC  77.0
005D:  BSF    18.6
005E:  BCF    08.4
....................       LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[2],DIGIT2);
005F:  BSF    08.4
0060:  MOVLW  DA
0061:  MOVWF  77
0062:  BTFSS  77.7
0063:  BCF    10.3
0064:  BTFSC  77.7
0065:  BSF    10.3
0066:  BTFSS  77.6
0067:  BCF    12.5
0068:  BTFSC  77.6
0069:  BSF    12.5
006A:  BTFSS  77.5
006B:  BCF    15.5
006C:  BTFSC  77.5
006D:  BSF    15.5
006E:  BTFSS  77.4
006F:  BCF    16.3
0070:  BTFSC  77.4
0071:  BSF    16.3
0072:  BTFSS  77.3
0073:  BCF    13.2
0074:  BTFSC  77.3
0075:  BSF    13.2
0076:  BTFSS  77.2
0077:  BCF    10.2
0078:  BTFSC  77.2
0079:  BSF    10.2
007A:  BTFSS  77.1
007B:  BCF    13.3
007C:  BTFSC  77.1
007D:  BSF    13.3
007E:  BTFSS  77.0
007F:  BCF    16.2
0080:  BTFSC  77.0
0081:  BSF    16.2
0082:  BCF    08.4
....................       LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[3],DIGIT3);
0083:  BSF    08.4
0084:  MOVLW  F2
0085:  MOVWF  77
0086:  BTFSS  77.7
0087:  BCF    10.0
0088:  BTFSC  77.7
0089:  BSF    10.0
008A:  BTFSS  77.6
008B:  BCF    10.1
008C:  BTFSC  77.6
008D:  BSF    10.1
008E:  BTFSS  77.5
008F:  BCF    13.1
0090:  BTFSC  77.5
0091:  BSF    13.1
0092:  BTFSS  77.4
0093:  BCF    16.0
0094:  BTFSC  77.4
0095:  BSF    16.0
0096:  BTFSS  77.3
0097:  BCF    15.4
0098:  BTFSC  77.3
0099:  BSF    15.4
009A:  BTFSS  77.2
009B:  BCF    12.4
009C:  BTFSC  77.2
009D:  BSF    12.4
009E:  BTFSS  77.1
009F:  BCF    13.0
00A0:  BTFSC  77.1
00A1:  BSF    13.0
00A2:  BTFSS  77.0
00A3:  BCF    18.4
00A4:  BTFSC  77.0
00A5:  BSF    18.4
00A6:  BCF    08.4
....................       LCD_SYMBOL(Digit_Map[4],DIGIT4);
00A7:  BSF    08.4
00A8:  MOVLW  66
00A9:  MOVWF  77
00AA:  BTFSS  77.7
00AB:  BCF    12.2
00AC:  BTFSC  77.7
00AD:  BSF    12.2
00AE:  BTFSS  77.6
00AF:  BCF    12.3
00B0:  BTFSC  77.6
00B1:  BSF    12.3
00B2:  BTFSS  77.5
00B3:  BCF    15.3
00B4:  BTFSC  77.5
00B5:  BSF    15.3
00B6:  BTFSS  77.4
00B7:  BCF    18.2
00B8:  BTFSC  77.4
00B9:  BSF    18.2
00BA:  BTFSS  77.3
00BB:  BCF    15.1
00BC:  BTFSC  77.3
00BD:  BSF    15.1
00BE:  BTFSS  77.2
00BF:  BCF    12.1
00C0:  BTFSC  77.2
00C1:  BSF    12.1
00C2:  BTFSS  77.1
00C3:  BCF    15.2
00C4:  BTFSC  77.1
00C5:  BSF    15.2
00C6:  BTFSS  77.0
00C7:  BCF    18.1
00C8:  BTFSC  77.0
00C9:  BSF    18.1
00CA:  BCF    08.4
....................       delay_ms(2000);
00CB:  MOVLW  08
00CC:  BCF    03.6
00CD:  MOVWF  21
00CE:  MOVLW  FA
00CF:  MOVWF  22
00D0:  CALL   004
00D1:  DECFSZ 21,F
00D2:  GOTO   0CE
....................    }
00D3:  BSF    03.6
00D4:  GOTO   03B
.................... }
.................... /*-------------------------------------------*/
00D5:  SLEEP

Configuration Fuses:
   Word  1: 3FE4   NOWDT PUT NOPROTECT MCLR NOCPD BROWNOUT IESO FCMEN NODEBUG INTRC_IO



output on display is like thise:

Code:
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:39 am     Reply with quote

I think it's possible that the mapping of the segments is not correct.
The problem could be that:

1. Your connections between the PIC and the LCD may not really be
the same as the list that you have posted.

2. Your LCD may be different than the BEL data sheet.


I suggest that you try to make only one digit work (not 4 digits).
Try to display the number "1" in the lowest digit. If that works,
then try other numbers, but only display them in the lowest digit.
(The digit on the right side of the LCD).
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