CCS C Software and Maintenance Offers
FAQFAQ   FAQForum Help   FAQOfficial CCS Support   SearchSearch  RegisterRegister 

ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

CCS does not monitor this forum on a regular basis.

Please do not post bug reports on this forum. Send them to CCS Technical Support

18F242 change from 3.278MHz to 20Mhz

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    CCS Forum Index -> General CCS C Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
PICLeo



Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 11
Location: South Africa

View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number

18F242 change from 3.278MHz to 20Mhz
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:55 am     Reply with quote

Hi

I do have a program that connects 3 18F242 Pics via I2c. At the moment all three pics are working with a 3.278Mhz crystal. Because of the reason that I do a lot of calculation with one of the slaves, takes almost 5ms, I want to change the crystals to 20Mhz. I do have the problem that I am getting calculation mistakes from time to time. I think that it just needs to much time to calculate the various values so that the PIC is might be to slow. The I2C is working quite well.
If I change the crystals to one of those 20 Mhz ones the Pics tend to restart all the time. I changed the frequenzy to the 20Mhz and use HS within the header file.
What else can there be wrong? I think it has something to do with the I2C but I dont understand why.

Here the codes. I know its quite a lot but maybe somebody can help me.

MASTER:
Code:
#include <MASTER.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

void write_slave1(byte slave_address);
void read_slave1(byte slave_address);
void read_slave2(byte slave_address);
void send_RS232();
void receive_RDA();

#define slave1_address 0x02
#define slave2_address 0x04

#define BUFFER_SIZE 16
BYTE buffer[BUFFER_SIZE];
BYTE next_in = 0;
char   inputstring[16];
int8  RTCCi = 0;
int1 transmit = 0;
int1 RDAset = 0;
char inputchar;
signed int8 angle_in = 0;

union speed_bytes
{
   float speed_in;
   int8  speed_in_byte[4];
}  speed_value;

union acceleration_bytes
{
   float acceleration_in;
   int8  acceleration_in_byte[4];
}  acceleration_value;

union distance_bytes
{
   float distance_in;
   int8  distance_in_byte[4];
}  distance_value;

#int_RTCC
RTCC_isr()
{
   if(RTCCi == 19)
   {
      transmit = 1;
      RTCCi = 0;
   }
   else RTCCi++;
}

#int_RDA
RDA_isr()
{
   inputchar = getc();

   if(inputchar == 0x0d)
      {
         RDAset = 1;
      }
   else
      {
         buffer[next_in] = inputchar;
         if (next_in < BUFFER_SIZE)
            next_in = (next_in + 1);
      }
}

void write_slave1(byte slave_address)
{
   i2c_start();
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(slave_address);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[4]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[5]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[6]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[7]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_stop();
}

void write_slave2(byte slave_address)
{
   i2c_start();
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(slave_address);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[1]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[2]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(inputstring[3]);
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_stop();
}

void read_slave1(byte slave_address)
{
   i2c_start();
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(slave_address + 1);
   speed_value.speed_in_byte[0] = i2c_read(1);
   speed_value.speed_in_byte[1] = i2c_read(1);
   speed_value.speed_in_byte[2] = i2c_read(1);
   speed_value.speed_in_byte[3] = i2c_read(1);
   acceleration_value.acceleration_in_byte[0] = i2c_read(1);
   acceleration_value.acceleration_in_byte[1] = i2c_read(1);
   acceleration_value.acceleration_in_byte[2] = i2c_read(1);
   acceleration_value.acceleration_in_byte[3] = i2c_read(1);
   distance_value.distance_in_byte[0] = i2c_read(1);
   distance_value.distance_in_byte[1] = i2c_read(1);
   distance_value.distance_in_byte[2] = i2c_read(1);
   distance_value.distance_in_byte[3] = i2c_read(0);
   i2c_stop();
}

void read_slave2(byte slave_address)
{
   i2c_start();
   delay_ms(1);
   i2c_write(slave_address + 1);
   angle_in = i2c_read(0);
   i2c_stop();
}

void send_RS232()
{
   read_slave1(slave1_address);
   read_slave2(slave2_address);
   printf("%2.1f,%2.1f,%3.1f,%d\n",speed_value.speed_in,acceleration_value.acceleration_in,distance_value.distance_in,angle_in);
   transmit = 0;
}

void receive_RDA()
{
   disable_interrupts(INT_RDA);
   strncpy (inputstring, buffer, 16);
   next_in = 0;
   RDAset = 0;
   enable_interrupts(INT_RDA);
   write_slave1(slave1_address);
   write_slave2(slave2_address);
}

void initialize()
{
   setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
   setup_adc(ADC_OFF);
   setup_timer_0(RTCC_INTERNAL|RTCC_DIV_32|RTCC_8_bit);
   setup_timer_1(T1_INTERNAL|T1_DIV_BY_1);
   setup_timer_2(T2_DISABLED,0,1);
   setup_timer_3(T3_DISABLED|T3_DIV_BY_1);

   enable_interrupts(INT_RTCC);
   enable_interrupts(INT_RDA);
   enable_interrupts(global);
}

void main()
{
   output_high(PIN_B4);
   delay_ms(500);
   output_low(PIN_B4);

   initialize();

   while(1)
   {
      if(transmit == 1)
      {
         send_RS232();
      }

      If(RDAset == 1)
      {
         receive_RDA();
      }
   }
}


SLAVE1:
Code:
#include <SLAVE1.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

unsigned char read_i2c(void);
void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte);
void i2c_interrupt_handler(void);
void initialize(void);
void i2c_error(void);
void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte);
void hand();
void speed_control();
void calculation_speed();
void calculation_acceleration();
void calculation_distance();

/* Bit defines */
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_SMP     0x80
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_CKE     0x40
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_DA      0x20
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_P       0x10
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_S       0x08
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_RW      0x04
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_UA      0x02
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_BF      0x01

#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL    0x80
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPOV   0x40
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPEN   0x20
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_CKP     0x10
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM3   0x08
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM2   0x04
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM1   0x02
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM0   0x01

#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_GCEN    0x80
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKSTAT 0x40
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKDT   0x20
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKEN   0x10
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_RCEN    0x08
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_PEN     0x04
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_RSEN    0x02
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_SEN     0x01

/* Byte Reg defines*/
#byte PIC_SSPBUF=0xFC9
#byte PIC_SSPADD=0xFC8
#byte PIC_SSPSTAT=0xFC7
#byte PIC_SSPCON1=0xFC6
#byte PIC_SSPCON2=0xFC5

#define RX_BUF_LEN  5
#define NODE_ADDR   0x02

unsigned char slave_buffer[RX_BUF_LEN];
unsigned char speed_string[RX_BUF_LEN];
float buffer_speed[2];
int buffer_index;

int8  hallwheel = 0;
int8  hallwheelbuffer = 0;
int8  hallgear = 0;
int8  hallgearbuffer = 0;
int16 hallwheelcount = 0;

int8   speedin = 0;
int16  speedin1 = 0;
int16  speedin2 = 0;
int16  speedin3 = 0;

int8 i = 0;
int8 ii = 0;

union speed_bytes
{
   float speed_out;
   int8  speed_out_byte[4];
}  speed_value;

union acceleration_bytes
{
   float acceleration_out;
   int8  acceleration_out_byte[4];
}  acceleration_value;

union distance_bytes
{
   float distance_out;
   int8  distance_out_byte[4];
}  distance_value;

#INT_SSP
void ssp_interupt ()
{
   hand();
}

#int_ext
EXT_isr()
{
      if(Input(PIN_B0) == 1)
      {
         hallwheel++;
      }
}

#int_RTCC
RTCC_isr()
{
      if(i == 49)
      {
         calculation_speed();
         calculation_acceleration();
         calculation_distance();
         i = 0;
      }
      else
      {
         i++;
      }
}

void hand()
{
    unsigned char i2c_mask = 0x2D;  /* 0010 1101 */
    byte temp_sspstat;
    unsigned char this_byte;
    unsigned char tx_byte;
    int x;

    temp_sspstat = PIC_SSPSTAT & i2c_mask;

    switch(temp_sspstat)
    {
      case 0x09:
         for (x=0; x<RX_BUF_LEN; x++)
         {
            slave_buffer[x]=0x00;
         }
         buffer_index=0;

         this_byte = read_i2c();
         break;

      case 0x29:
         this_byte = read_i2c();

         slave_buffer[buffer_index] = this_byte;

         if (buffer_index == 3)
         {
            speed_control();
         }

         buffer_index++;

         if (buffer_index >= RX_BUF_LEN)
         {
            buffer_index = 0;
         }

         break;

      case 0x0c:
         write_i2c(speed_value.speed_out_byte[0]);
         break;

      case 0x2c:
         write_i2c(speed_value.speed_out_byte[1]);
         write_i2c(speed_value.speed_out_byte[2]);
         write_i2c(speed_value.speed_out_byte[3]);
         write_i2c(acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[0]);
         write_i2c(acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[1]);
         write_i2c(acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[2]);
         write_i2c(acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[3]);
         write_i2c(distance_value.distance_out_byte[0]);
         write_i2c(distance_value.distance_out_byte[1]);
         write_i2c(distance_value.distance_out_byte[2]);
         write_i2c(distance_value.distance_out_byte[3]);
         break;
   }
}

void speed_control()
{

   ii++;

   strncpy (speed_string, slave_buffer, 8);

   if(ii <= 5)
   {
   }
   else
   {
      ii=10;
      if(speed_string[0] == '0')
      {
         speedin3 = ((speed_string[1] - 0x30) * 100);
         speedin2 = ((speed_string[2] - 0x30) * 10);
         speedin1 = (speed_string[3] - 0x30);
         speedin  = speedin3 + speedin2 + speedin1;
         set_pwm1_duty(speedin);
         set_pwm2_duty(0);
      }

      if(speed_string[0] == '1')
      {
         speedin3 = ((speed_string[1] - 0x30) * 100);
         speedin2 = ((speed_string[2] - 0x30) * 10);
         speedin1 = (speed_string[3] - 0x30);
         speedin  = speedin3 + speedin2 + speedin1;
         set_pwm1_duty(0);
         set_pwm2_duty(speedin);
      }
   }
}


void calculation_speed()
{
   hallwheelbuffer = hallwheel;
   hallwheel = 0;
   hallwheelcount = hallwheelcount + hallwheelbuffer;
   speed_value.speed_out = (hallwheelbuffer * 0.02) / 0.2;
   buffer_speed[1] = buffer_speed[0];
   buffer_speed[0] = speed_value.speed_out;
}


void calculation_acceleration()
{
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out = (buffer_speed[0] - buffer_speed[1])/0.2;
}


void calculation_distance()
{
   distance_value.distance_out = hallwheelcount * 0.02;
}


void initialize(void)
{
   int i = 0;


   setup_timer_0(RTCC_INTERNAL|RTCC_DIV_32|RTCC_8_bit);
   setup_timer_1(T1_DISABLED);
   setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16,255,1);
   setup_ccp1(CCP_PWM);
   setup_ccp2(CCP_PWM);
   set_pwm1_duty(0);
   set_pwm2_duty(0);

   set_tris_a(0b00000000);
   set_tris_b(0b00000111);
   set_tris_c(0b00011000);

   PIC_SSPCON1 = 0x36;
   PIC_SSPADD = NODE_ADDR;
   PIC_SSPSTAT = 0x00;

   enable_interrupts(INT_SSP);
   enable_interrupts(INT_EXT);
   enable_interrupts(INT_EXT1);
   enable_interrupts(INT_RTCC);

   ext_int_edge(L_TO_H);
   ext_int_edge(1, L_TO_H);

   for (i=0; i<RX_BUF_LEN; i++)
   {
      speed_string[i]=0x00;
   }

   buffer_speed[1]=0;
   buffer_speed[0]=0;
   speed_value.speed_out_byte[0] = 0;
   speed_value.speed_out_byte[1] = 0;
   speed_value.speed_out_byte[2] = 0;
   speed_value.speed_out_byte[3] = 0;
   speed_value.speed_out = 0;
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[0] = 0;
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[1] = 0;
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[2] = 0;
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out_byte[3] = 0;
   acceleration_value.acceleration_out = 0;
   distance_value.distance_out_byte[0] = 0;
   distance_value.distance_out_byte[1] = 0;
   distance_value.distance_out_byte[2] = 0;
   distance_value.distance_out_byte[3] = 0;
   distance_value.distance_out = 0;


   output_high(PIN_B4);
   delay_ms(200);
   output_low(PIN_B4);
}


unsigned char read_i2c(void)
{
   return PIC_SSPBUF;
}



void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte)
{
   unsigned char write_collision = 1;

   while (PIC_SSPSTAT & PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_BF)
   {
   }

   while (write_collision)
   {
      PIC_SSPCON1 &= ~PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL;
      PIC_SSPBUF = transmit_byte;

      if(PIC_SSPCON1 & PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL)
      {
         write_collision = 1;
      }
      else
      {
         write_collision = 0;
      }
   }
   PIC_SSPCON1 |= PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_CKP;
}


void main()
{
   initialize();
   enable_interrupts(GLOBAL);

   while (1)
   {
   }
}


SLAVE2:
Code:

#include <SLAVE2.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

unsigned char read_i2c(void);
void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte);
void i2c_interrupt_handler(void);
void initialize(void);
void i2c_error(void);
void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte);
void hand();
void steering_control();
void calculation_angle();

/* Bit defines */
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_SMP     0x80
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_CKE     0x40
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_DA      0x20
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_P       0x10
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_S       0x08
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_RW      0x04
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_UA      0x02
#define PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_BF      0x01

#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL    0x80
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPOV   0x40
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPEN   0x20
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_CKP     0x10
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM3   0x08
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM2   0x04
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM1   0x02
#define PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_SSPM0   0x01

#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_GCEN    0x80
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKSTAT 0x40
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKDT   0x20
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_ACKEN   0x10
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_RCEN    0x08
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_PEN     0x04
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_RSEN    0x02
#define PIC_SSPCON2_BIT_SEN     0x01

/* Byte Reg defines*/
#byte PIC_SSPBUF=0xFC9
#byte PIC_SSPADD=0xFC8
#byte PIC_SSPSTAT=0xFC7
#byte PIC_SSPCON1=0xFC6
#byte PIC_SSPCON2=0xFC5

#define RX_BUF_LEN  4
#define NODE_ADDR   0x04

unsigned char slave_buffer[RX_BUF_LEN];
unsigned char steering_string[RX_BUF_LEN];
int buffer_index;
int8  hallwheel = 0;
int8  hallwheelbuffer = 0;
int8  hallgear = 0;
int8  hallgearbuffer = 0;
signed int8  angle_out = 0;
int8  angle_car = 0;
int8   anglein = 0;
int16  anglein1 = 0;
int16  anglein2 = 0;
int16  anglein3 = 0;

#INT_SSP
void ssp_interupt ()
{
   hand();
}

void hand()
{
    unsigned char i2c_mask = 0x2D;  /* 0010 1101 */
    byte temp_sspstat;
    unsigned char this_byte;
    unsigned char tx_byte;
    int x;

   temp_sspstat = PIC_SSPSTAT & i2c_mask;

   switch(temp_sspstat)
   {
      case 0x09:
         for (x=0; x<RX_BUF_LEN; x++)
         {
            slave_buffer[x]=0x00;
         }
         buffer_index=0;

         this_byte = read_i2c();
         break;

      case 0x29:
         this_byte = read_i2c();
         slave_buffer[buffer_index] = this_byte;

         if (buffer_index == 2)
         {
            steering_control();
         }

         buffer_index++;

         if (buffer_index >= RX_BUF_LEN)
         {
            buffer_index = 0;
         }
         break;

      case 0x0c:
         calculation_angle();
         write_i2c(angle_out);
         break;

      case 0x2c:
         break;
   }
}

void steering_control()
{
   strncpy (steering_string, slave_buffer, 4);

   anglein3 = ((steering_string[0] - 0x30)*100);
   anglein2 = ((steering_string[1] - 0x30)*10);
   anglein1 = (steering_string[2] - 0x30);
   anglein =  anglein3 + anglein2 + anglein1;

   set_pwm1_duty(anglein);
}

void calculation_angle()
{
   angle_car = read_adc();

   if(angle_car <= 42)
   {
      angle_out = 21;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 43 && angle_car <= 45)
   {
      angle_out = 14;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 46 && angle_car <= 48)
   {
      angle_out = 7;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 49 && angle_car <= 51)
   {
      angle_out = 0;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 52 && angle_car <= 54)
   {
      angle_out = -7;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 55 && angle_car <= 57)
   {
      angle_out = -14;
   }
   if(angle_car >= 58)
   {
      angle_out = -21;
   }
}

void initialize(void)
{
   set_tris_a(0b00000001);
   set_tris_b(0b00000111);
   set_tris_c(0b00011000);

   PIC_SSPCON1 = 0x36;
   PIC_SSPADD = NODE_ADDR;
   PIC_SSPSTAT = 0x00;

   setup_adc_ports(AN0_VREF_VREF);
   setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_INTERNAL);
   setup_ccp1(CCP_PWM);
   setup_port_a( ALL_ANALOG );
   setup_timer_2(T2_DIV_BY_16,255,1);
   set_adc_channel( 0 );
   set_pwm1_duty(83);

   enable_interrupts(INT_SSP);
}

unsigned char read_i2c(void)
{
   return PIC_SSPBUF;
}

void write_i2c(unsigned char transmit_byte)
{
   unsigned char write_collision = 1;

   while (PIC_SSPSTAT & PIC_SSPSTAT_BIT_BF)
   {
   }

   while (write_collision)
   {
      PIC_SSPCON1 &= ~PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL;
      PIC_SSPBUF = transmit_byte;

      if(PIC_SSPCON1 & PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_WCOL)
      {
         write_collision = 1;
      }
      else
      {
         write_collision = 0;
      }
   }
   PIC_SSPCON1 |= PIC_SSPCON1_BIT_CKP;
}

void main()
{

   output_high(PIN_B4);
   delay_ms(200);
   output_low(PIN_B4);

   initialize();
   enable_interrupts(GLOBAL);

    while (1)
    {
    }
}


THANKS
sd211



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Location: NC, USA

View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

Re: 18F242 change from 3.278MHz to 20Mhz
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:40 pm     Reply with quote

The problem is most likely with the oscillator, not I2C. What caps do you have for crystal? 20MHz usually will work well with 20-22pF caps. If you have "blink-a-led" program, does PIC restart?

Sergey
Grouchy
Guest







PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:23 pm     Reply with quote

Hi!
What about the "#use i2c" directive?
What are the options that you're using on the MASTER?
try this:
#use i2c(Master,Fast,sda=PIN_C4,scl=PIN_C3,FORCE_HW)
iso9001



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Posts: 262

View user's profile Send private message

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:25 pm     Reply with quote

I don't have much to add to your post but it seems that the 18F2520 is cheaper then the 18F242. Thats in low quanities from mouser. Microchips site says the 2420 is a lot cheaper, but it looks like street price is better for the 2520

They look to me like the exact same chip except for the 2520 having twice the rom and twice the ram.

Not sure if you knew that or not, or if it helps. But anyway,

EDIT: nevermind, I was looking at the non-rohs version, the 2420 is cheaper. But not by much.
PICLeo



Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 11
Location: South Africa

View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:58 am     Reply with quote

Hi

I use 22pF caps. So that should be allright. I also use exactly the options Grouchy mentioned.

Yesterday I also tried to get a very simple program started.

Its just like:
output_high(PIN_B4);
delay_ms(500);
output_low(PIN_B4);

If i switch the PIC on the LED sometimes glows for 3 seconds. Another time for maybe 1 second. It must be quite confused.
For the case I connect the oszi I still do not get a sinus-signal....

What else can there be wrong?
sd211



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Location: NC, USA

View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:13 pm     Reply with quote

PICLeo wrote:
Hi

I use 22pF caps. So that should be allright. I also use exactly the options Grouchy mentioned.

Yesterday I also tried to get a very simple program started.

Its just like:
output_high(PIN_B4);
delay_ms(500);
output_low(PIN_B4);

If i switch the PIC on the LED sometimes glows for 3 seconds. Another time for maybe 1 second. It must be quite confused.
For the case I connect the oszi I still do not get a sinus-signal....

What else can there be wrong?

Sounds like oscillator problem. Make sure you select HS option for the oscillator. I do not remember exact syntax and I am away from my compiler, so check docs.
If this opition is selected, verify that you get stable oscillation, use 1:10 settings on the oscilloscope probe, otherwise it will interfere with the oscillator.
Sergey
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    CCS Forum Index -> General CCS C Discussion All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group