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Chip is broken?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:07 pm     Reply with quote

Hi- Happy New Year!
I'm programming a PICF877A using both ICProg and PonyProg. With both I get a programming error -ICProg 'verify failed at 000h', PonyProg 'write error'.

I've tried programming 2 different PICF877As and get the same result.
I've programmed both of these chips multiple times (guessing not more than 40x) so I suppose it is possible that both are worn out.
I have set the correct COM setting and plugged in the power.

Any thoughts? Is there a way to know is it me or is it the chip?
Thanks-
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:17 pm     Reply with quote

It's extremely unlikely that both PICs would wear out on exactly the
same day, and after only 40 programmings. Look for some other
problem, such as chip put in backwards, or a bad power supply, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:13 am     Reply with quote

thanks PCM.
The chip is not in backwards, I have a brand-new chip, the power supply to the Olimex board seems to be working-
But I still get a verification error.
Looking at the schematic for the Olimex board
http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/PIC/PIC-P40N-sch.gif
I have J3 on pin 36.
What would I look for when troubleshooting whether or not the program is actually getting into the PIC?
I'm clueless. Embarassed
Anyone?
Thanks-
Sophi
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:29 am     Reply with quote

After reading
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265&highlight=icsp
I'm disconnecting pins B6 and B7 and B3 which I had been previously using.
However, ICSP programming used to work with these 3 pins being used for something else....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:40 am     Reply with quote

Success!
Laughing
Does this mean I can't use these pins?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:20 am     Reply with quote

Sophi wrote:
Success!
Laughing
Does this mean I can't use these pins?
Sophi


That depends what you use them for....

I almost always use B4-B7 (no B3 - I never debug in circuit) for button presses. The internal port B pullups are enabled, and B4 - B7 are wired to momentary contact switches. When they are pressed, they ground the pin they're connected to.

In situations like this, I can program the PIC in circuit with no issues because the switches don't affect the signal integrity in the least.

I have one circuit where a PIC's port B is wired to the output of an external 8 bit A/D converter. I had to put in isolation switches so that I could physically disconnect the A/D from B6 and B7 in order to successfully program it in circuit. If I don't disconnect these lines from the external A/D, I can't program it at all.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:40 am     Reply with quote

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I almost always use B4-B7 (no B3 - I never debug in circuit) for button presses


Yes that helps since I had the pins connected to a D/A.
What do u mean B3- never debug?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:53 am     Reply with quote

I mean that I don't perform ANY in-circuit debugging. I only place an in-circuit programming header on my board and use that to program the PIC. I don't debug it in circuit.

If you do, then the same thing I said about B6 and B7 also applies to B3 (or B5 or whatever the debug line is on the PIC.)
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